“@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. 13. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign upSee new Tweets. MHver3 @MHver3. And they all already know the current numbers. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 7h. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Also a high ranking member of. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. The PAC show of unity tweet…. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. ALT. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. MHver3. 26. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Retweets. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. @MHver3. There’s a catch. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. 6. twitter. @MHver3. AZ has and AZSU problem. and. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. ”MHver3 @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Likes. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. 21. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Quote. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. MHver3 @MHver3. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. 5% each. Jul 12. Likes. 2. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. OMG I was wrong. ”Log in. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. Likes. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. No one has control. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. Ugh. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. @xtmountain. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . I’ve shared that here last summer. Would need to probably add 6. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. Retweets. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Replying to @Brewenor. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. 2. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. At least for the next 6-8 years. 7. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. 1 — and for No. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. AZ has and AZSU problem. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. @MHver3. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. ·. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. 1. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. 8 of them are. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. 1. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Look for a thread soon. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. Staples: The realignment battle for No. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. It was $24. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Quote Tweets. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Might even see a Huskie or two. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. 82. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. Their additions brought stability. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. 3 — is made for TV. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. 2. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. Replying to @MHver3. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. 33. Log in. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. Sign up. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. I actually don’t want more western schools. 1 — and for No. There. @xtmountain. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. It was $24. Learn more. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. Quote Tweets. @MHver3. @MHver3. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. 5% each. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. Staples: The realignment battle for No. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. 131. Pitt actually did improve after the move. Could also mean ND is rethinking. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. There. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. Jul 6, 2022. and @Mountaineer_Ste. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. “@godawgs4 Not really. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Likes. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. @MHver3. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. 11. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. That’s it. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. help. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). ”See new Tweets. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. Miguel. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s all I’ve got. Retweets. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. 3. I don’t hate the PAC. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. Things have escalated. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Sign up“Called my source. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. Show more replies. 7. 6. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. That’s it. ” MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. Quote Tweets. MHver3 @MHver3. Retweets. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. that will be accurate. ”Log in. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. 13. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Log in. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. And they all already know the current numbers. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. Taking a small break from sharing. Replying to @Tomkatf14. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. ” March 7th. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. GIF. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. But simply never happens. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. 9. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. @MHver3. I don’t think that’s an option for us. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. Likes. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. 19. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. 2. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 4. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. 2. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. Up to 75% would be streaming. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. Appx $75m per year. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast.